A Matter of Degrees

Stories for the climate curious

About the podcast

Give up your climate guilt. Sharpen your curiosity.

Climate change is the story of our time. We're here to help you understand it in a deeper way — and take part in that story yourself.

With the help of dozens of climate leaders, we tell stories of bold solutions and groundbreaking campaigns, stories of misdeeds and corruption and efforts to stop them, and stories of people doing their best to be a part of the solution. Join us as we make sense of big climate questions.

We are an award-winning production made in partnership with The 2035 Initiative at UC Santa Barbara and The All We Can Save Project.

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The hosts

Leah & Katharine

Dr. Leah Stokes

Dr. Leah Stokes

Dr. Leah Stokes is a specialist in energy and climate policy, and the author of the award-winning book Short Circuiting Policy, which examines the role of utilities in undermining regulation and promoting climate denial. Trained at M.I.T., Columbia, and the University of Toronto, Leah has published in top scholarly journals and popular media outlets. Named a 2020 Grist 50 Fixer, she regularly provides advice to policymakers at the federal and state levels and has given testimony on clean energy and electrification to the U.S. Congress, as well as states and cities.

At the University of California, Santa Barbara, Leah is the Anton Vonk Associate Professor of Environmental Politics. Her deep research shows electrification can cut 75% of carbon emissions while saving lives, strengthening the economy, increasing grid resilience, and reducing the burden of costly weather-related disasters. Leah is an avid gardener.

Dr. Katharine Wilkinson

Dr. Katharine Wilkinson

Dr. Katharine Wilkinson is an author, strategist, teacher, and one of 15 "women who will save the world," according to Time magazine. She is co-founder and executive director of The All We Can Save Project, which works to grow climate leadership, and creator of All We Can Save Circles and Climate Wayfinding. Her books on climate include the bestselling anthology All We Can Save, The Drawdown Review, the New York Times bestseller Drawdown, and Between God & Green.

Previously, Katharine was the principal writer and editor-in-chief at the climate solutions nonprofit Project Drawdown. She speaks widely, at forums including National Geographic, TEDWomen, and the United Nations. A former Rhodes Scholar and frequent visiting professor, Katharine holds a doctorate in geography and environment from Oxford and a BA in religion from Sewanee. She is a homegrown Atlantan, happiest on a mountain or a horse.